Talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7

Robert Hart robert at air-stream.org
Thu Feb 9 21:20:23 PST 2006


Great to see other groups doing feild days, we are just about th have 
ours http://www.air-stream.org.au/od4_intro on March 19th, maybe when 
you run your feild day we could patch into into your wireless network 
via a VPN through the internet.

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>   1. Re: Introducing Field Day 2006 (d.g.luechtefeld at mac.com)
>   2. RE: Introducing Field Day 2006 (Gerald Pickford)
>   3. RE: Introducing Field Day 2006 (Casey Halverson)
>   4. Potential Nodes In Need of Hardware? (Ken)
>   5. FON interest? (Chuck Lare)
>   6. RE: FON interest? (Casey Halverson)
>   7. Re: FON interest? (Chuck Lare)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:45:06 -0800
>From: d.g.luechtefeld at mac.com
>Subject: Re: Introducing Field Day 2006
>To: SeattleWireless Talk List <talk at seattlewireless.net>
>Message-ID: <16317303.1139521506780.JavaMail.d.g.luechtefeld at mac.com>
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>Will these be the only three sites?
>
>How's this for an idea: setting up Asterisk PBX at each site, seeing how many concurrent VoIP calls we can run over the links.
>
>dgl
>
>
>On Thursday, February 09, 2006, at 11:32AM, Casey Halverson <casey.halverson at infospace.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>This year we are having a FieldDay.  We are targeting August, which may
>>seem a long ways off, but we need to start planning now.
>>
>>I will be taking the Event Coordinator role this year, and I am looking
>>for a couple others to head up as site leads.  
>>
>>I want to do the Alki to Magnolia link again, but this year we are going
>>to tie into the rest of SeattleWireless!  This means that GasWorks park
>>will be our third site.
>>
>>I have worked on a basic outline for the official wiki page, and put a
>>link to it on the front page because it's a very significant
>>event/activity.  Wiki editors and FieldDay helpers, feel free to expand
>>on this page.
>>
>>http://www.seattlewireless.net/2006wirelessfieldday
>>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:53:30 -0800
>From: "Gerald Pickford" <geraldp at magnusllc.com>
>Subject: RE: Introducing Field Day 2006
>To: "SeattleWireless Talk List" <talk at seattlewireless.net>
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>The company I work for would be happy to provide at least one Asterisk server and some Polycom or Grandstream SIP phones for that.  I may even be able to get them to send a couple of Viewstation video conferencing units to play with.
>
>Gerald Pickford
>VoiceIP Solutions
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net
>[mailto:talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net]On Behalf Of
>d.g.luechtefeld at mac.com
>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 1:45 PM
>To: SeattleWireless Talk List
>Subject: Re: Introducing Field Day 2006
>
>
>Will these be the only three sites?
>
>How's this for an idea: setting up Asterisk PBX at each site, seeing how many concurrent VoIP calls we can run over the links.
>
>dgl
>
>
>On Thursday, February 09, 2006, at 11:32AM, Casey Halverson <casey.halverson at infospace.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>This year we are having a FieldDay.  We are targeting August, which may
>>seem a long ways off, but we need to start planning now.
>>
>>I will be taking the Event Coordinator role this year, and I am looking
>>for a couple others to head up as site leads.  
>>
>>I want to do the Alki to Magnolia link again, but this year we are going
>>to tie into the rest of SeattleWireless!  This means that GasWorks park
>>will be our third site.
>>
>>I have worked on a basic outline for the official wiki page, and put a
>>link to it on the front page because it's a very significant
>>event/activity.  Wiki editors and FieldDay helpers, feel free to expand
>>on this page.
>>
>>http://www.seattlewireless.net/2006wirelessfieldday
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Talk mailing list
>>Talk at seattlewireless.net
>>http://seattlewireless.net/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:13:30 -0800
>From: "Casey Halverson" <casey.halverson at infospace.com>
>Subject: RE: Introducing Field Day 2006
>To: "SeattleWireless Talk List" <talk at seattlewireless.net>
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>I am completely open to suggestions.  Do you think there should be more
>locations?  Where would you propose?
>
>Gerald and I are talking and I think that we may be able to come up with
>a great VoIP/video conferencing demo between a few of the sites.   
>
>Anybody else with an interesting technology or idea is welcome to
>contact me directly to arrange a demo.  You can be a company,
>consultant, person/hobbyist -- I don't mind either way.
>
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net 
>>[mailto:talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net] On Behalf Of 
>>d.g.luechtefeld at mac.com
>>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 1:45 PM
>>To: SeattleWireless Talk List
>>Subject: Re: Introducing Field Day 2006
>>
>>Will these be the only three sites?
>>
>>How's this for an idea: setting up Asterisk PBX at each site, 
>>seeing how many concurrent VoIP calls we can run over the links.
>>
>>dgl
>>
>>
>>On Thursday, February 09, 2006, at 11:32AM, Casey Halverson 
>><casey.halverson at infospace.com> wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>This year we are having a FieldDay.  We are targeting 
>>>      
>>>
>>August, which may 
>>    
>>
>>>seem a long ways off, but we need to start planning now.
>>>
>>>I will be taking the Event Coordinator role this year, and I 
>>>      
>>>
>>am looking 
>>    
>>
>>>for a couple others to head up as site leads.
>>>
>>>I want to do the Alki to Magnolia link again, but this year we are 
>>>going to tie into the rest of SeattleWireless!  This means that 
>>>GasWorks park will be our third site.
>>>
>>>I have worked on a basic outline for the official wiki page, 
>>>      
>>>
>>and put a 
>>    
>>
>>>link to it on the front page because it's a very significant 
>>>event/activity.  Wiki editors and FieldDay helpers, feel 
>>>      
>>>
>>free to expand 
>>    
>>
>>>on this page.
>>>
>>>http://www.seattlewireless.net/2006wirelessfieldday
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Talk mailing list
>>>Talk at seattlewireless.net
>>>http://seattlewireless.net/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:12:37 -0800
>From: Ken <ken at ipl31.net>
>Subject: Potential Nodes In Need of Hardware?
>To: talk at seattlewireless.net
>Message-ID:
>	<5a9ec63d0602091712k3da639fdw7bdd4d016bbfc647 at mail.gmail.com>
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>Howdy,
>
>I might have a line on some fairly decent highpower (100mw) access points
>that have connectors for external antennas. I am not sure exactly how many
>but I think at least two or three. I can get them for free on the condition
>that their final home is a swn node. If people know of any potential node
>locations that might benefit from this, contact me. I am going to make the
>selection with a biased towards location. Sites with lots of line of site,
>or in view of other SWN nodes get first go at the gear.
>
>-Ken
>
>--
>Ken Caruso
>ken at ipl31.net
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:18:39 -0800
>From: Chuck Lare <chuck at lareassoc.com>
>Subject: FON interest?
>To: talk at seattlewireless.net
>Message-ID: <43EBE9EF.7080100 at lareassoc.com>
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>Has anyone experience using or recommend FON.
>http://en.fon.com/info/what-is-fon.php
>"FON is a Global Community of people who share WiFi. Share your WiFi 
>broadband access at home/work and enjoy WiFi all over the world! FON: 
>small cost, great benefit!"?
>
>Is FON an open WiFi network to bring free WiFi/Internet to the community 
>by sharing of personal WiFi networks?
>
>Please advise, thanks.  Chuck
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:31:59 -0800
>From: "Casey Halverson" <casey.halverson at infospace.com>
>Subject: RE: FON interest?
>To: <chuck at lareassoc.com>,	"SeattleWireless Talk List"
>	<talk at seattlewireless.net>
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>Lots of hype .. its a gimmick.  They want to ultimately push into the
>wifi voip market with this network buildout....
> 
>You have to run *their* stuff...
>
>Im not impressed.
>
>________________________________
>
>	From: talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net
>[mailto:talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Lare
>	Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:19 PM
>	To: talk at seattlewireless.net
>	Subject: FON interest?
>	
>	
>	Has anyone experience using or recommend FON.
>	http://en.fon.com/info/what-is-fon.php
>	"FON is a Global Community of people who share WiFi. Share your
>WiFi broadband access at home/work and enjoy WiFi all over the world!
>FON: small cost, great benefit!"?
>	
>	Is FON an open WiFi network to bring free WiFi/Internet to the
>community by sharing of personal WiFi networks?
>	
>	
>	Please advise, thanks.  Chuck
>	
>
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:03:39 -0800
>From: Chuck Lare <chuck at lareassoc.com>
>Subject: Re: FON interest?
>To: Casey Halverson <casey.halverson at infospace.com>, ken at ipl31.net,
>	talk at seattlewireless.net
>Message-ID: <43EC1EAB.1080808 at lareassoc.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Thanks Ken & Casey.  Sounds like FON doesn't have the altruistic 
>motivation that we share.  What I understand is the their basic model 
>relies on hundreds of small home network nodes stitched together, 
>blanketing the area, providing WiFi/Internet access.  Add to that the 
>Seattle Fire Departments are all connected with fiber optics and most of 
>the government buildings.  As a result it seems a large part of the 
>Seattle area is poised to be able to be WiFi/Internet connected.
>
>I was a board member of the Washington Association of Telecommunication 
>Officers and Advisor, the membership is primarily of those who represent 
>municipalities in their Cable TV franchises.  We have had presentations 
>from both the City of Spokane and the Columbia Rural Electric 
>Association, both who have implemented WiFi in their fire departments 
>and very large areas of their communities.  The fire departments are now 
>interested in integrating RFIDs and WiFi to maintain real-time inventory 
>of their equipment, personnel and triage of victims.
>
>Has anyone references of other fire departments implementing WiFi?
>
>Please advise, stay well.  Chuck
>
>
>
>
>Basically you run their code on your ap and get free access to other fon 
>nodes, and they charge non foners to use any fon enabled ap. My opinion 
>is that  their motivation is not in the right place to be of help to 
>community wireless. Its a similiar concept to what sputnik tried to do.
>
>Ken
>Ken
>ken at ipl31.net
>
>Casey Halverson wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Lots of hype .. its a gimmick.  They want to ultimately push into the
>>wifi voip market with this network buildout....
>>
>>You have to run *their* stuff...
>>
>>Im not impressed.
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>	From: talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net
>>[mailto:talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Lare
>>	Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:19 PM
>>	To: talk at seattlewireless.net
>>	Subject: FON interest?
>>	
>>	
>>	Has anyone experience using or recommend FON.
>>	http://en.fon.com/info/what-is-fon.php
>>	"FON is a Global Community of people who share WiFi. Share your
>>WiFi broadband access at home/work and enjoy WiFi all over the world!
>>FON: small cost, great benefit!"?
>>	
>>	Is FON an open WiFi network to bring free WiFi/Internet to the
>>community by sharing of personal WiFi networks?
>>	
>>	
>>	Please advise, thanks.  Chuck
>>	
>> 
>>
>>    
>>


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