FON interest?

Sat Feb 11 11:52:16 PST 2006

how about battery operated, helmet cam based mobile mesh repeaters?  LOL.  

It just might work if you combined them with a ad-hoc mesh repeaters that you setup.  (e.g. along the shaft into a mine)  It would be tough with 4.9 or 5GHz, but you could be successful at 2.4, 900 or 700MHz for First Responders.

ty
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chuck Lare 
  To: Tyler van Houwelingen ; SeattleWireless Talk List ; Larry LeBlanc 
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:44 PM
  Subject: Re: FON interest?

  Thanks Casey, Larry & Tyler:

  I imagine Fire Departments' biggest hurdle with WiFi is it's lack of penetration several floors below the surface and/or elevator shafts.   Without relying on repeaters, lossy cabling or switching to other frequencies I perceive this to be a limitation of WiFi for a long time to come. 
  Stay well, 
  Chuck Lare

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  Larry LeBlanc [In Motion Technology] wrote:
  We've had a lot of success and interest in the ambulance community, 
  where they have traditionally relied on a mobile data terminal connected 
  to CDPD/GPRS modems for dispatch and routing functionality. Recently a 
  new application - EPCR (Electronic Patient Care Records) has created a 
  need for a second computer in the vehicle and a problem of how to 
  connect it. Our mLAN approach solves that problem and opens the door for 
  simple extension to numerous other applications including drug/equipment 
  inventory tracking (using RFID or bar code scanners), driver safety (we 
  are partnered with Road Safety International to integrate their driver 
  monitoring/training solution to improve fleet safety), vehicle 
  diagnostics, security cameras, etc. 

  Tyler van Houwelingen wrote:

    we are working with fire depts for wifi/zigbee applications.  usages are:  mobile (truck based) access for maps, mobile surveillance, boom mounted surveillance, backup Voice, Virtual WAN to interlink firestations, etc.  lots that can be done here as with all first responders.

    Is FON somehow coordinating IP schemes?  Otherwise moving or "flopping" from one node to another will be a big problem

    ty
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Chuck Lare 
      To: Casey Halverson ; ken at ipl31.net ; talk at seattlewireless.net 
      Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:03 PM
      Subject: Re: FON interest?

      Thanks Ken & Casey.  Sounds like FON doesn't have the altruistic motivation that we share.  What I understand is the their basic model relies on hundreds of small home network nodes stitched together, blanketing the area, providing WiFi/Internet access.  Add to that the Seattle Fire Departments are all connected with fiber optics and most of the government buildings.  As a result it seems a large part of the Seattle area is poised to be able to be WiFi/Internet connected.

      I was a board member of the Washington Association of Telecommunication Officers and Advisor, the membership is primarily of those who represent municipalities in their Cable TV franchises.  We have had presentations from both the City of Spokane and the Columbia Rural Electric Association, both who have implemented WiFi in their fire departments and very large areas of their communities.  The fire departments are now interested in integrating RFIDs and WiFi to maintain real-time inventory of their equipment, personnel and triage of victims.

      Has anyone references of other fire departments implementing WiFi?

Please advise, stay well.  Chuck

      Basically you run their code on your ap and get free access to other fon nodes, and they charge non foners to use any fon enabled ap. My opinion is that  their motivation is not in the right place to be of help to community wireless. Its a similiar concept to what sputnik tried to do. 

      Ken 
      Ken 
      ken at ipl31.net 

      Casey Halverson wrote:

Lots of hype .. its a gimmick.  They want to ultimately push into the
wifi voip market with this network buildout....

You have to run *their* stuff...

Im not impressed.

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	From: talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net
[mailto:talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Lare
	Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:19 PM
	To: talk at seattlewireless.net
	Subject: FON interest?

	Has anyone experience using or recommend FON.
	http://en.fon.com/info/what-is-fon.php
	"FON is a Global Community of people who share WiFi. Share your
WiFi broadband access at home/work and enjoy WiFi all over the world!
FON: small cost, great benefit!"?

	Is FON an open WiFi network to bring free WiFi/Internet to the
community by sharing of personal WiFi networks?

	Please advise, thanks.  Chuck

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