Clearwire: Just Say No

[John van Oppen (list account)]

I use VOIP over a VPN pretty regularly, and if the connection is decent
it seems to work ok...   That being said, most of the connections I am
on are not exactly home connections but I have tried it on links as
small as 1.5 mbit/sec DSL to my network.
 
john

(my home connection is a DS3, so of course it is fine there...)  

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net
[mailto:talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net] On Behalf Of Fred Weston
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:27 PM
To: SeattleWireless Talk List
Subject: Re: Clearwire: Just Say No

ClearWire is more suited to grandmothers and other people that only
use a computer for browsing and e-mail.  For that, I'm sure it would
work fine.  There's been so much negative press about ClearWire in the
tech community, I'm surprised technically inclined people are still
signing up.

Regarding the VoIP tunneling, surprised that works as well as it does.
 Usually adding additional layers of encapsulation degrades VoIP
pretty fast.

Of course, eventually we'll reach a point where ISPs are so
restrictive and monitor so much that everyone will just end up
tunneling everything through a remote host on a trusted network.  I
laugh now, but I wonder how true that could be in a few years.

On 1/27/07, Tom Marshall <tommy at home.tig-grr.com> wrote:
> > Worst case, I'll setup a tunnel to the Real World for VoIP
>
> I tried this and it works great.  Just needed a tunneling daemon and a
few
> iptables rules.  Total time invested was about an hour.  I've spent
longer
> on the phone talking to their support reps.
>
> I don't understand how a company can be so myopic as to think that the
> strategy of making life difficult for the average user and annoying
the tech
> literate user enough to spread the word that their tactics are hostile
is
> worth the short term gain of a captive audience.  But I guess there's
> precedent -- look at the RIAA and MPAA.
>
> The real irony in this absurd situation is that I _did_ check into
VoIP from
> Clearwire and they don't provide it in my area (not that I would have
paid
> their absurd prices but that's beside the point).  The situation
reminds me
> of a jealous ex-boyfriend -- "if I can't have her, then nobody can!"
>
> --
> "Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet.
The
> sooner people accept this, and build business models that take this
into
> account, the sooner people will start making money again."
>         -- Bruce Schneier
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