mobile WiFi accesspoint?
Stephen Ronan
listsubs0506 at comcast.net
Wed Jul 4 08:55:01 PDT 2007
In regard to reasonably price hardware, I'm presuming the following are
relevant, but I don't have a clear sense of when the non-exclusive
licensing process will be in place or what other issues remain before
activity starts in that band.
http://www.ubnt.com/xtreme_range3.php4 ("3.65 GHz Unlicensed Wireless
with Contention Protocol")
and
http://www.ubnt.com/ps2.php4
From the ISP wireless list, the Powerstation pricing is:
http://www.doubleradius.com/Ubiquiti-PowerStation2?sc=2&category=4503
Quantity Price
1 – 4 $159.00
5 – 19 $149.00
20 – 99 $139.00
100 – 249 $129.00
250 +$119.00
On page 66 here, you'll see a map showing that much of Washington state
falls into "exclusion zones" where the new uses of the spectrum will be
severely restricted to protect existing uses. But it looks like Seattle
itself is not in one of those exclusion zones.
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf
- Stephen Ronan
Casey Halverson wrote:
> No, but this seems very interesting. Is there hardware available at
> reasonable pricing? ($2k-$4k per p2p link = reasonable)
>
> On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Yournet at hotmail.com
> <mailto:Yournet at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Casey, are you familiar with the 3.65-3.70 GHz spectrum developments?
>> FCC recently clarified use with upper and lower 25 MHz bands arranged
>> for WiMAX and contention based MACs. We should see fairly rapid
>> availability and deployment. This is semi-unlicensed: users must
>> register their base stations but otherwise do not have to take a
>> license for the spectrum.
>> Some possibilities include use of 3.65 as back haul for WiFi, for RAN
>> access, and as devices become more available and lower cost , for
>> general service. The advantages include higher power (25W peak
>> EIRP/25 MHz for fixed stations and 1W peak EIRP/25 MHz for mobile and
>> nomadic stations).
>> Robert Syputa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Casey Halverson <mailto:casey.halverson at infospace.com>
>> *To:* SeattleWireless Talk List <mailto:talk at seattlewireless.net>
>> ; SeattleWireless Talk List <mailto:talk at seattlewireless.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:12 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: mobile WiFi accesspoint?
>>
>> In preparation for the IPhone, AT&T boosted their EDGE capacity
>> .... before the launch, you could actually get a near advertised
>> rate of about 200kbps. I cant say this is the case right now ;)
>>
>> UMTS draws a lot of power, which would be a lethal mix for
>> something like the iphone. When you try to side-step qualcomm
>> patents...you get nothing but crap.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net
>> <mailto:talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net> on behalf of gary
>> Sent: Tue 7/3/2007 7:27 PM
>> To: SeattleWireless Talk List
>> Subject: Re: mobile WiFi accesspoint?
>>
>> I recall hearing a radio interview with some Blackberry
>> representative
>> that they were sticking with EDGE for power consumption reasons. It
>> sounded like double-speak to me since you would think a phone
>> with HSDPA
>> could fall back to EDGE.
>>
>> I have EDGE and will confirm it is way too slow, though in some
>> markets
>> it is better than others. In the SF Bay Area, EDGE is on continual
>> overload. When I use it in socal or Vegas, it is like a turbo has
>> been
>> installed.
>>
>> The only thing I can say positive about EDGE is the GSM network in
>> general seems to work better than other services I've had when
>> roaming.
>> That is, I think the networks are more uniform across the country. I
>> can't tell you how much time I spent with Verizon trying to get
>> voice to
>> work in some markets that I would not call rural. I've run EDGE
>> without
>> a hitch everywhere I've traveled (assuming the service is available.)
>>
>> On an unrelated note, now that Speakeasy is under Best Buy,
>> should I be
>> looking for a new DSL provider?
>>
>> Daniel Marsh wrote:
>> > I have seen a lot of real world speed tests that show that HSDPA
>> > typically delivers 60-70% of the downlink capacity of EVDO rev
>> A. There
>> > are very few handsets on the market that support HSDPA and
>> HSDPA has
>> > only been deployed in a very limited number (17 was the last
>> number I
>> > saw) of markets. On the other hand, both Sprint and Verizon
>> offer EVDO
>> > rev A throughout pretty much their whole network and can fall
>> back on
>> > 1xRTT if need be. Of the two, Sprint seems to score higher in
>> download
>> > tests and has a much better end user agreement/acceptable use
>> policy.
>> > ATT's only fallback option is EDGE, which is ungodly slow and
>> actually
>> > crashed for most of the day nationwide as all the Iphone
>> maniacs tried
>> > to suck down videos of skateboarding dogs off Youtube.
>> >
>> > -Daniel Marsh
>> >
>> >> It clearly isn't and latency is higher.
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-Data_Optimized
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Casey Halverson" <casey.halverson at infospace.com
>> <mailto:casey.halverson at infospace.com>>
>> >> To: "SeattleWireless Talk List" <talk at seattlewireless.net
>> <mailto:talk at seattlewireless.net>>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:55 AM
>> >> Subject: RE: mobile WiFi accesspoint?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Where did you hear that Cingular's UMTS offering is faster
>> than EVDO Rev
>> >>> A?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net
>> <mailto:talk-bounces at seattlewireless.net> [mailto:talk-
>> >>>> bounces at seattlewireless.net
>> <mailto:bounces at seattlewireless.net>] On Behalf Of Ajay Shekhawat
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:04 PM
>> >>>> To: talk at seattlewireless.net <mailto:talk at seattlewireless.net>
>> >>>> Subject: mobile WiFi accesspoint?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Can anyone recommend a WiFi AP with a 3G uplink (preferably
>> Cingular,
>> >>>> since its 3G is much faster than Sprint's EVDO).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ajay
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